{"id":1357,"date":"2021-06-15T00:05:46","date_gmt":"2021-06-15T00:05:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/?p=1357"},"modified":"2026-04-26T10:54:44","modified_gmt":"2026-04-26T16:54:44","slug":"bud-wilson-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/2021\/06\/15\/bud-wilson-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Bud Wilson Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"1357\" class=\"elementor elementor-1357\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e3e9d89 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"e3e9d89\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d6eba78 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d6eba78\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a80c585 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"a80c585\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"628\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/questastories.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/budwilson2-20-20-web-628x1024.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-1376\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/questastories.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/budwilson2-20-20-web-628x1024.jpg 628w, https:\/\/questastories.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/budwilson2-20-20-web-184x300.jpg 184w, https:\/\/questastories.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/budwilson2-20-20-web-768x1252.jpg 768w, https:\/\/questastories.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/budwilson2-20-20-web.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 628px) 100vw, 628px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b9bacc7 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b9bacc7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fd16940 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"fd16940\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Bud Wilson was born in 1925 in the suburbs of Chicago, but forged his connection to the land and people of Northern NM when he was just 16, while accompanying his high school teacher on a research trip to San Cristobal. Bud served as a Navy Pilot, attended medical school and became a surgeon, practicing heart and general surgery for fifty years. He established surgical programs in New Mexico, Colorado, and India. In 1947 Bud began to buy a ranch in Lama NM and in 1985 Bud and Barb (his late wife) founded the Sangre de Cristo Youth Ranch Summer Camp, which continues to this day.<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee Name:<\/strong> John &#8220;Bud&#8221; Wilson<br \/><strong>Interview Date:<\/strong> February 20, 2020<br \/><strong>Interviewers:<\/strong> Daniel Hutchison and Claire Cot\u00e9<br \/><strong>Interview Location:<\/strong> Bud Wilson&#8217;s Home in Lama, NM<br \/><strong>Topic covered:<\/strong> Bud&#8217;s life story, Lama and San Cristobal history, Northern NM in the 1940&#8217;s, Heart Surgery, International Travel.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ab13df9 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"ab13df9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cf9eacd elementor-widget 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display_none\"><\/i>\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/span>\r\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"player_song_name transition3\" data-albumname=\"founder of the Sangre de Cristo Youth Ranch Summer Camp\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\tBud Wilson\t\t\t\t<\/span>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\r\n\r\n\t\t\t<span class=\"entry_duration mpfe_fix_lh\"><\/span>\t\t\r\n\r\n\t\t\t<span class=\"song_buy_icons compact_buy_icons transition3 mpfe_clearfix mobile_visibility_hide\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\r\n\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-aa10ae8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"aa10ae8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Bud Wilson Interview Part 1, Time Stamps<br \/><\/strong>0:00 Intro<\/p><p>0:01 [Born approx. 1926] Grew up in the Northern suburbs of Chicago, high school student when he came to NM for the first time with his teacher, who was doing PhD research on DH Lawrence; so that took us to San Cristobal.<\/p><p>0:3:30 Bud worked in Kansas as a farm hand when he was 15, with an elder cousin. Put up 17 haystacks and filled a barn with hay. Teacher ran a camp that Bud helped with.<\/p><p>0:07:06 Summer of 1942, Bud spent time in Latir\/Sunshine Valley area on his own at 16 years<\/p><p>0:08 Took campers on backpacking trips including to Blue Lake\/Forest Service<\/p><p>0:14 Met wife to be in Jenny Vincent\u2019s kitchen<\/p><p>0:15 \u00a01947 Helped with Jenny Vincent\u2019s Summer Camp<\/p><p>0:18 1948 Bud Completed College\/Applied to Medical School<br \/>Discussion with Romero Family<br \/>Took Fabi Romero and other kids to the dance<\/p><p>0:21 Story of becoming a doctor \u2013 heard that a young woman died in childbirth, left a couple of kids without a mom, no doctor available, saw a local need. This sealed the deal on his decision to go to medical school.<\/p><p>0:22 Bought Lama Ranch Camp land from Reyes Martinez, who had been living on it for some years.<br \/>0:23:30 Nickname of Reyes Martinez was \u201cThe Fox\u201d because we would turn the water on the ditch at night<\/p><p>0:24:26 Bud graduated in 1943 and knew he would go into the military. He enlisted in the Navy Aircorps program. He had been selected to be a night flyer if he had stayed in the military as part of the \u201cBlack Widows.\u201d<\/p><p>0:27 \u201cWe had times when we were less than careful\u201d in training.<\/p><p>0:28 Night flight story &#8211; daredevil<\/p><p>0: 34:00 \u00a0Medical School and buying land in Lama<\/p><p>0:38 Camp Inspiration, including horses, eights weeks with travel time<\/p><p>0:45 Becoming a heart surgeon \u2013 medical school in Colorado, 12 years<\/p><p>0:47 Research on shock and heart, Denver, CO<\/p><p>0:49 Time India \u2013 medical school, heart-lung machine, 1965-67<\/p><p>0:56 School\/Life for kids<\/p><p>1:05 Attended Gorbachev meeting (announcement of Peristroika), 1985<\/p><p>1:14 Time in Sweden<\/p><p>1:15 Monkey pet from India<\/p><p>1:18 Jako the monkey, Grandmother\u2019s<\/p><p>1:25 Revisiting info about childhood and college<\/p><p>1:32 Heart Programs in NM<br \/>Sourced his philosophy from CO partners he\u2019s worked with \u2013 everyone was equally valuable in the group and got the same salary, very different from most professional groups at that time. Took this philosophy when he started a private group in Albuquerque. Started first heart surgery program in NM; two other people had tried to start a heart surgery before and it didn\u2019t work out.<\/p><p>He started a program at UNM (called Bernalillo Indian County Hospital at the time), very under-resourced and primitive conditions. Then moved to Presbyterian help start their programs.<\/p><p>1:44 Sterling Edwards joined UNM after Bud left UNM (father of Wyman Edwards 1:46)<\/p><p>1:48 When doing the camp with Iliu Romero, Bud (while still in medical school) met the Taos early doctors, description. He worked with Dr. Al Rosen and Dr. Deveau, good GPs in Taos.<\/p><p>1:50 Bud\u2019s \u201cOpen ether\u201d fainting story when helping with a surgery in Taos in the early days<\/p><p>1:52 Bud\u2019s reflections on going into medicine, going where help was needed<\/p><p>1:55:30 Advice from Bud \u201cMake choices for your life that help make the world a little better\u2026.one thing after another.\u201d<\/p><p>1:58 Discussion of \u00bc Mile hike up to his house through the snow.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bud Wilson was born in 1926 in the suburbs of Chicago, but forged his connection to the land and people of Northern NM when he was just 16, while accompanying his high school teacher on a research trip to San Cristobal.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1380,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_angie_page":false,"page_builder":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[44,60,63],"tags":[80,90,111,123,125,190,241,142,223,167,168,171,217],"class_list":["post-1357","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lama","category-questa","category-san-cristobal","tag-acequias","tag-bud-wilson","tag-family","tag-heart","tag-history","tag-life-story","tag-long-stories","tag-medicine","tag-military-service","tag-sange-de-cristo-youth-ranch","tag-school","tag-surgery","tag-vida-camp"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1357","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1357"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1357\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7481,"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1357\/revisions\/7481"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1380"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1357"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1357"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/questastories.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1357"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}